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Logic CREATOR: Schematic Capture
Symbol CREATOR: Part/Symbol Editor
Board CREATOR: PCB Layout Editor
View CREATOR: Photo-Plotter Viewer
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Q. I had recently created a footprint using board creator. Following the example you gave in the book, I selected a pad that was not in use by another footprint (in this case pad #31), and then modified the width and length of this pad; created my footprint and saved it. But when I brought up the footprint later using load footprint, I noticed that the pad sizes had reverted to the original 200mil by 100mil, thus making the footprint unrecognizable. How do I save the changes that I made to the footprint table such that they are recalled the next time board creator is used?

A. The way you are creating footprint for parts it is Ok but at the same time you need to change your Systems Pad Table right now you are done this by modified Edit Pad Table by doing this you can change PAD#31 only for this particular file. When you load symbol at that time you get old pad size in your symbol so you need to do modify PAD#31 in your FILE/Preferences/EDIT Systems PAD Table so when ever you create or open a new pcb file you get PAD#31 with same modification.

Q. I just purchased the Circuit Creator Pro Software, I want to view the layers of a printed circuit board that I design utilizing Board Creator, how I can made VIEW CREATOR to display my PCB or any other board already in Board Creator. I am not a computer expert, however with your help I hope I will be available to made the Gerber files in View Creator.

A. View Creator program is used to viewing Gerber Photo Plotter format files. When you finished your work in Board Creator you need to generate Photo Plotter format file for your PCB file and give it to your board fabricators. Before going to Board Fabricator you can see your file you generated correctly or not for that you can use View Creator Program.

Q. After I downloaded your pc board program I tried to run it but it asked me for a missing cg32.dll file where could I obtain this file.

A. You can download the Supporting DLLs from following website. http://www.advancedmsinc/update/ Downloaded file will be a zipped file. Unzip it and copy all the four .dll files into the same directory in which you have installed the software. You should be able to use the software.

Q. Every time that I have tried to pull down your PC Board design Cad software, I get a time out error! I've been trying to retrieve same fm the following site: http://216.150.88.190/pcbdesignandfab/software/ecad.exe

A. Please download the software from following website. http://www.advancedmsinc.com/download/cktdwnld.htm Follow the instructions of the download page to copy cc32.akf file to the circuit creator directory. It should not ask you to register again. However, to protect yourself save the current Circuit Creator directory as back up. If it asks you to register again, try to register. If the registration fails then send the file cc32.akf to us and we will help complete the registration.

Q. I want to give the design file (I assume the Gerber files) to a PCB manufacture "HOW I MAKE MY FILE VISIBLE TO THE PC BOARD HOUSE" that way they can make my board from the Board Creator file.

A. You have a problem with Gerber Photo plotter setup first do the Photo Plotter setup in your File/Preference menu and then generate following file to give your board house. Please refer "How to generate Gerber Photo Print file" in Board Creator program. This are the files is generated by Gerber Photo Plotter

(1) GFA-1.PCB
This is your Pc Board file.
How to get print in Gerber file format. You just look at it in print queue.
(2) GFA-1.PRN
This is your PC board report file.
(3) GFA-1.PCF
This file is for Gerber Photo plotter.
(4) GFA-1.APT
This is an aperture list file (D-CODE or Flash code). This file you need to
Send your PC board fabricator.
(5) GFA-1.G01
This is a Gerber file for Legend print layer. This file you need to send your PC board fabricator.
(6) GFA-1.G02
This is a Gerber file for Component side layer. This file you need to send your PC board fabricator.
(7) GFA-1.G03
This is a Gerber file for Solder side layer. This file you need to send your PC board fabricator.
(8) GFA-1.G04
This is a Gerber file for Solder mask as well as component mask layer. Those files you need to send your PC board fabricator to fabricate your PCB.

Q. I created a footprint for a part with mounting holes. When I made a board using the schematic I made using Logic Creator, the Board Creator program assigned a track to a hole. The hole was on the whole layer? I wanted the track to be assigning to a pad, which was on the bottom conductor layer? I put the conductor pads into Board Creator in the same order I used when I made the symbol for the part. I then made the holes for the part. I was under the impression that Board Creator associated the pads in the same order as the pads used by the symbol? Can you tell me how to add mounting holes for parts that will not be assigned to tracks? I need to specify the mounting holes to be .156 in diameter. There are two mounting holes a two conductor pad holes for the part.

A. Please make sure, when you create board symbol you assign a pin number on mounting hole. When you get extra pad on footprint you can give over pin number you have in part. For Example: - You want to create Transformer footprint with mounting hole. You have 4 part pins and 2 mounting holes. When you create footprint you give 1 to 4-pin number to parts PAD and 5 to 6 give to mounting hole. Other wise you assign pin number "0" (zero) to all mounting holes.

Q. I am trying to create a new footprint from Board Creator. (I select New from the File Menu, then I select Load Symbol, then I select New.) When this happens I get the message "Only available in Platinum version" and I am not allowed to proceed with the edit. I was under the impression that the only difference between the Pro version and the Platinum version was the Spice module.

A. You are doing wrong to create a new footprint? 
Creating new footprint you don’t need to select new footprint from File/Load symbols. For creating new footprint you have to create new board file from File/New Manu and draw your footprint you want to keep store in footprint library files (.pcs). After finish footprint select whole footprint symbol by using Edit/Select command now go to File Manu and click on Save Symbol or press Ctrl + V from keyboard. You get a new symbol save menu type your footprint name and click on OK button now your footprint file is stored in program library.

Q. I have changed my platform on my computer from windows 98 to windows 2000. I am experiencing printing problems with both my Logic Creator and Board Creator. Most of the time I can get logic creator to print a schematic and rarely can I get Board Creator to print my pc board. The software I am using is Version 3.00 Professional; the printer I am using is a HP LaserJet 3200 series. 

A. Yes. You can change your platform by reformatted your hard drive or you run setup WIN 2000 as an second operating systems so when you want to use 98 you can use instead of WIN 2000. That is depending upon your operation of installing Win2000 in your systems. If you not reformatted your drive you have to reinstall your Circuit Creator program from original CD's and reregister it again because Win 2000 and Win 98 using different files from his systems. Other wise you have to reinstall your printer driver in your systems.

Q. If I want to change some footprint for e.g. say footprint of resistor. So if I create a new footprint then is it possible to change all the resistors in my PCB globally with new footprint on board creator? I have tried it but didn't find any option to change it globally. Only in Edit menu there is option called as Change all but in that it’s not possible to change foot print directly. Also I tried option as Update from Edit menu but there also I didn't able to change it. So I just want to know how to change any footprint globally in case of Board creator? 

A. Yes. You can change footprint in Board Creator but you can’t change all footprint directly from Board Creator. If you want to change footprint from board creator you have to place new footprint instead of old footprint with same instance "R1, C1, U1, X1" then update it from I/O menu using update from logic creator option and run upd file again. 
Edit/Update: From EDIT menu you can’t do that because this update options is using for object. (Like. LINE, PAD, TEXT, etc.) 
Change footprints Using UPD file: You have only one option to change you footprint globally editing UPD file here is sample file of UPD file you have to change only footprint name in UPD file in below sample I highlight footprint name you have put your footprint name as per your specification after change all the footprint name you have to go Board Creator program and select I/O/Creator from Logic Creator options and select your updated UPD file from list after that you get what you want.

Board Creator update list

UPDATE_LIST
PART .01UF C22 DISC-C
PAD C22 1 GND
PAD C22 2 3.3VCC
END_UPDATE_LIST

Q. I have drawn footprints of R, C & D according to my requirement & changed the distance between the pads. But automatically outlines of resistor, capacitor & diodes have changed but distance between the pads that I have adjusted is retained. Why this has happened? Before that I just change parameters of one of the pads of other component & just selected Load system pad table from File/Preferences. But this shouldn't cause above problem.

A. I think your are doing something wrong with Board Creator if you need to update your footprint file you have to move Pad’s by using Edit / Select option from Edit menu and press O you get option Manu to enable and disable segment and Layers enable FLAT options click on OK to exit. Now change your footprint accordingly you want. You must have to know which number of PAD is used in footprint file after that you can change parameter of PAD from Edit / Pad table after doing this don't load system pad table when you load system pad table Board Creator update you edit menu and you get original PAD parameter so please don't do that.

Q. I have drawn footprints of R, C & D according to my requirement & changed the distance between the pads. But automatically outlines of resistor, capacitor & diodes & some times pad positions are also changing when I rotate any footprint. Actually it should not happen.

A. You are not changing footprint you are modifying footprint directly on the board using copy paste all the footprints. You cannot do that so when you select those components for move only pads are moving. As far as for Pad’s of R, C, & D you assign offset value so your components pads is not placed on the grid.

Q. I have created a PCB using manual routing and need to send the Gerber files to a board house now. Would you please tell me the steps that I need to take to create the Gerber and drill files? I used to remember how to do this but I didn't use the software for a couple of years and I don't remember how I did it before. This is kind of urgent so I would appreciate your help as soon as possible.

A. For Creating Gerber Photo file first you have select Gerber.PCF print configuration file in your Circuit Creator. For doing this first you have to go to File/Preference/Path-Options Manu and click on Plotter/PCF and then select Gerber.PCF file from your current Circuit Creator directory and select the film page size and then click ok and exit from Preference Manu. Now load your PCB file and go to File/Photo Plotter menu you show photo print queue screen you have select your required Layer/Mask and then click on Ok. Now Circuit Creator generate Gerber file for your PCB file all the print file extension is PCB filename. G01... .G10 You can go up to 10 different Layer/Mask plot in Circuit Creator and in the same screen you can generate Excellon Drill file for CNC purpose.

Q. However, when I go to File Menu and choose "Photo Plotter..." it gives me an error message saying "Printer Config - Cannot recognize: WIDTH WARN "D12*\\13\10". Would you please let me know where the problem might be?

A. You have to check your Photo Plotter setup printer configuration in File/Preference menu or may be possible you have currently selected other printer instead of Gerber Photo plotter. Also make sure you have not selected any color pen in your printer option queue in your printer.

Q. I have been using Board Creator for several years now and every time I send Gerber files to Advanced Circuits they have trouble reading them. I am using Professional Edition Version 3.01. Build Date Dec 13 2001.

A. This is latest update on Circuit Creator Pro. Program you are currently using. When you generate the Gerber file for your PCB you must need to know in which format of Gerber Photo Plotter use by your PCB Fabricator. In Circuit Creator program we provide both type of Gerber Photo File format. (1) 274 X and (2) 274 D

Q. Advanced circuit’s reports that the pads are missing. I look at it using the Gerber viewer you provided and then look fine. They then do something to fix the problem.

A. Yes it is possible. They can edit your Gerber Photo files and do the changes if they want to change.

Q. This time a new guy called and said I should contact you and maybe you have a fix for it. I ask him to send me an email explaining what is wrong and I have attached it so you can read it.

A. Yes we must help you to fix this problem. Below files are different file format used by Gerber Photo Plotter. In 274 X format you don't need to provide them Flash code file for Photo Print and in 274 D format you must need to provide Flash code file to you fabricator. Flash code file is automatically generated by Circuit Creator program (.APT).

Q. The program creates the G01, 02, etc. But when I want to view them I still get the same message which is an error message saying WIDTH WARNS if I choose one of the sample demo1. G01 or G02 it opens it fine. But when I open my .G01 or G02, etc. it gives me that error message and won't open the file.

A. In Gerber Photo plotter you can’t select color Pen for separate layer mask so select only Black color pen and then generate Gerber output files and extension of print file .G01, G02, … G10.

Q. When I restart the program and choose photo plotter I get the same message as before. Also, when I restart the program, the GERBER.pcf has changed to Triage.pcf. Triage is the name that I have chosen for my PCB.

A. Don't worry about that this process is automatically done by Circuit Creator program when you are select Photo plotter printer configuration file .PCF from file menu it generating photo plotter setup process in this process program change the PCF file with the name of current PCB file name.

Q. How to see the Gerber Photo Plotter files in Circuit Creator? 

A. If you want to see Gerber photo file you have to run View Creator program and select Printer configuration file (.pcf) file from Photo plotter setup in File menu this .pcf file is same name of PCB file click on OK and open Gerber Photo printer format (g01, 2, 3,) file now you can see your PCB output file.

Q. The program creates the G01, 02, etc. But when I want to view them I still get the same message which is an error message saying WIDTH WARNS if I choose one of the sample demo1. G01 or G02 it opens it fine. But when I open my .G01 or G02, etc. it gives me that error message and won't open the file.

A. In Gerber Photo plotter you can’t select color Pen for separate layer mask so select only BLACK color pen and then generate Gerber file and .G01, .G02, .G10 is the extension of print file of Gerber Photo plotter. So Please make sure which one format use by your fabricator for Gerber then select right format from Photo Plotter print menu and provide right format of Gerber file to your Fabricator. Also you can provide Excellon Drill data file to your fabricator this report is automatically generate by Circuit Creator program just click one box in Photo Plotter Print Manu.

Q. The flashed pads are improperly defined in the Gerber code. I have two data sets and will contrast the differences found to cause problems with the pads disappearing.

A. Yes. This is possible because you are using different Photo Plotter format Rs 274X format included flesh code data in to same file so in this format we don’t need to provide aperture list file to PC Board Fabricator but in RS 274D format we must have to provide flash code file to PC Board Fabricator. 
(1) 274 X Format G54D3* < The "D3" command designates a flash and should be used on the same line. X4612Y11538D2* < The "D2" command (Linear move with light off) and should not be used. 
G54D3* 
X4612Y11638D2*
 G54D3* 
X1512Y12538D2* 
G54D13*
G54D3*
X1612Y12538D2*
G54D3*
X1712Y12538D2*
G54D3*
X3012Y11538D2*
G54D3*
M02*

(2) 274 D Format
G54D10* 
G01X022671Y069011D03* <This code illustrates the flash command per Gerber protocols.
G01X018841Y060161D03* 
G01X012941Y061521D03*
G54D18*
G01X038101Y064881D03*
G01X037941Y066641D03*
G54D10*
G01X028611Y063651D03*
G01X035941Y064581D03*
M02*

Q. Please let me know, if YOU HAVE an option to control 0's suppression OR NOT!

A. Here is the sample format of GERBER FILE generated by Board Creator program. G04 Board Creator Date: Wed Oct 29 10:13:44 2003 G04 Source File: C:\needle1\needle1.pcb
FSLAX23Y23*
%AD*%
%ADD10R,0.11000X0.03000*%
%ADD11R,0.04000X0.04000*%
%ADD12C,0.00800*%*

You are talking about above format for zero suppression but you don't have to worry about that because that is the header format for RX274X output format. Now you can see from the below line your PCB data files starts from here so don't worry about that. 
G54D12*
X1062Y18938D2*
X1062Y18938D2*
X1062Y18908D1*
X1092Y18938D2*
X1062Y18938D1*
X1062Y18813D2*
X1092Y18813D1*
X1062Y18813D2*
X1062Y18838D1*
X12182Y18863D2*

If your PCB FABRICATOR gives you any query about the wrong GERBER file format at that time you forward us those query we can take care of those query also. 

Q. As per manual mentioned on page 164, in case of drawing new footprint its
possible to save the setting of pad by clicking on Ok button after selecting a pad
from pad table in Edit Menu.

A. Yes you can change your pad definition as per your requirement but it will allow you only on this board if you want same pad shapes and size for every pc board file you have to do this procedure with Edit systems pad table in File/Preference/edit systems pad menu.

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