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Logic CREATOR: Schematic Capture
Symbol CREATOR: Part/Symbol Editor
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Symbol CREATOR

Q. Is there a way to copy symbol information into a new library or do you have to hand enter new symbol information into a new library.

A. Yes. You can copy or rename symbols directly from library. If you want to copy Symbol first you have to Select Symbol library and open symbol you want to copy after open symbol. After that Select Symbol Library where you want to copy this symbol after that go to Symbol Manu and save the symbol. If you don’t need same symbol name you can rename symbol name and then save it at new location.

Q. I ran across a problem when trying to generate new logic symbols for the AM26LS31 and MA26LS32 quad-differential line driver and receiver. After creating the logic symbol for these parts, I used the IO command for the enable function (G, ~G), which is shared among all 4 components, by assigning the same pin number to every instance in the package of 4. It worked fine until I used them in my schematic and place them in it. When checking for design for errors, I got error messages for these shared pins (*), and then the program (Circuit Creator) aborts and dies loosing all work done up to that point (**). Would you please tell me why I can use shared pins like those found in these two parts? Is there a newer version of your product that takes into account this particular problem and solves it? (*) The error messages read, "This PART/PIN combination is multiply defined". (**) After Circuit Creator goes through all supposedly "design errors", a new pop-up window shows an error "Cannot open file .sch", and then the program dies.

A. Your symbol was wrongly created so these types of problems are occurs. You are using " I used the IO command for the enable function (G, ~G), which is shared among all 4 components, by assigning the same pin number to every instance in the package of 4." this command it is not corrected. If you want 4 gates in one symbol you give 4 in section command in symbol creation. And than you give all four-section pin no in IO than you get four-sections in one. (Like U1-A, U1-B, U1-C, U1-D).

Q. In your library AMS810.LBP you have the part 16F887. When using Symbol Creator, you show the Power Pins: 11=32, 5=12, 31=GND. Is this correct, and what does it mean? Pin 11 and Pin 32 should be +VDD. Pin 12 and pin 31 should be gnd. Pin 5 is RA3/AN3.

A. When you create new symbol in Symbol Creator in logic symbol some pin is take +5V, GND, and other signals. If you want to show those pins in symbols then it is ok but if you didn’t want to show those pins on symbol you can connect directly from part definition Manu.

Example: In 7404 Pin 7 = GND and 14 = +5V and it is NOT gate so you can show only NOT gate symbol not Power and Ground pins.

Q. If you have a N/C pin, should you label it as N/C with NOSHOW or should you remove it from the symbol definition.

A. Yes it is true you can do like this. When you never use this pin for any connection you give it Not Shown in symbol or remove it from symbols. You can use NC for Not Connected Net name label for this kind of Pins in future when you need those pins you can use it easily otherwise you have to Generate a new symbols for that.

Q. Do you support heterogeneous symbols? That is, I have a physical part, which contains two, or more completely unrelated sections? Breaking a part down heterogeneously is also useful when the number of pins on a part is large.

A. Yes Logic Creator program support heterogeneous parts and even heterogeneous parts with exceptions (a small number of pins can be different between sections). At the same time you have to make two different symbols in library and it is up to you which symbols you want to use for that part or not.

Q. I can already open the load symbol menu but it only contains 20 or so I.C.'s if I wanted to put an smt resistor or an smt capacitor were would I look. Under new it tells me I need the platinum Edition, is that the problem?

A. You have to scroll this window down side by using mouse or keyboard cursor key. Now, you see more symbols names on your menu after that click on your symbol name you need to use or scroll window down for more. If your symbol files not in library you can create your own symbols for Board Creator. For that you have to make your symbol as per his physical diagram and select it using select command and go to file menu and click on "Save Symbol" command or you can use Ctrl + C hotkey directly from keyboard then one window will be appear you have to fill up name of the symbol you want to store your own footprint symbol in library then click on Ok button and save your footprint symbol

Q. We have Circuit Creator for Windows customer for several years now. I have a technical question I need some help with. We recently purchased a program called DocuCom from Zeon www.zeon.com.tw that creates a .pdf file of a printed output from Windows. It installs just like a print driver and is considered another Windows printer. If we try to "print" to this "printer" from any other program it works great creating a .pdf file

A. There must be a problem with installation of your .PDF print program you have So when you try to print from any of the Circuit Creator programs the .pdf file is created but with zero (0) bytes. Another words, there is no data put in to the .pdf file. So I want to suggest you first thing re-install this program and install it again and then try to print schematic file you are trying first time and see the results.

Q. One other problem I'm having is that several parts that I have loaded do not have their in/out pins aligned with the grid. When I examined these parts in Symbol Creator, I noticed that the area statement was "Area 1340 1300" which caused the output pin terminations not to lie on the 100 unit grid.

A. Yes. You are right. What you have to do is just open the Symbol Creator and load select symbol library and update this symbol line "Area 1400 1300" and save it in library and go to Logic Creator and freshen this symbol from Library menu.

Q. I wanted to view the symbols in 74XX library. I started the Symbol Creator, selected the Part Library for 74.lbp, opened 7404.prt and noticed the symbol for this part is s04. Then I selected the symbol library (74.lbp) from the menu. Then tried to open it, but I got the Error message "No matching entries in this library: *. sym. In logic creator I can load this part in my schematic diagram so I know it exist. I checked all of the 74XX libraries and they all create the same Error message but other libraries seem to be OK. Can you let me know how I can access to these symbols (74xx) and be able to view/ modify them?

A. Yes. You didn’t find any symbols in 74XX library files because we have not saved any symbols in this library we have stored all the symbols related to this library in to symbols.lbs so you have to open this library from symbol menu using Select library command and open your symbol from this library and modify it as per you want to modify.

Q. Do you have a utility that will allow me to see or print the part numbers in a library (i.e. all the 2n?????? transistors in the analog library) Right now I am looking for symbols for a line driver L298 made by ST and a amplifier LM3875, I would guess analog or linear libraries but if I had a search tool I could find it faster.

A. Yes. You can do that using Symbol Creator. This program gives you list of parts and Symbol all ready have in particular library. You can get text file or print it out on printer. Also you can search your part using Library/Part by name command from Library in Logic Creator program and you can see the same or similar parts name those parts are stored in program Libraries in current Circuit Creator directory with the name of .lbp and. lbs.

Q. Do you have a utility that will allow me to export a parts library to Microsoft excel or access and allow me to make changes and then import those changes into a library. (Page editing rather than component-by-component line editing.)

A. No you can not change symbol and parts using any other program you must have to use Symbol Creator to do that only thing you can get printout for that.

Q. I next go into Symbol Creator, pull up the part in question, and change the Corp. Part Number (why is it not the same as the Corp Number of the same part on the drawing?) to the desired part number. It is now the right number on the

drawing, and in the part/symbol library. But it is still not correct on the BOM! Why is this, and where is it getting the empty or incorrect number from?

A. When you load part in schematic file and then change the part number from Symbol Creator program both are different so you have use freshen command to refresh this part from Library menu and select part and OK now you double click on part and see the part number in part update Manu.

Q. In addition to my two previous emails, Logic Creator has now totally stopped producing BOM reports. I go into Export, choose BOM, it seems to process, no errors, and then nothing. No board BOM is created, I scan all of my hard disk and cannot find xxxxx.BOM. It was producing it hours ago, but no longer. Please, what is going on?

A. When schematic have unexpected errors after that program can’t generate any report files from anywhere so you must have to check your symbols and its pinots when somebody is design. And also make sure your schematic file have no logical error.

Q. That I have a Region Pour that is a large area on my board. I need just 1 corner angled off at a 45-degree angle. (Take a very small end off of the region pour). What is the best way to do this? I noticed that since I had this major problem with my software, your tech team doesn't answer a lot of my emails.

A. Region Pour command doesn’t allow you to use 45-degree angle. For getting 45 Degree corner in Region pour you have to use ARC command and do this when you want to put.

Q. Is there a way to copy symbol information into a new library or do you have to hand enter new symbol information into a new library.

A. Yes If you are using SYMBOL CREATOR for that you have to first open SYMBOL from current library and then OPEN your TARGET LIBRARY and then just press on save bottom. If you want to change the name of symbol you can do that and save it.

Schematic Part / Symbol: If you need parts or symbols for use in schematic capture program you need to create this symbol and parts using SYMBOL CREATOR Program. This symbol has Logical information of the particular parts.

PCB Layout Symbol: If you want to use symbol in Board Creator program you have to use Board Creator program and save it in to CKTCRT as a .PCS file and then use this symbol in Board Creator. This symbol have physical information of that part so when you are going to mount it on a PCB when you assemble it.

For that REFER HOW TO CREATE FOOTPRINT IN A MANUAL

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